Friday, November 7, 2008

Gays protest and blame the Mormons... sore losers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/gay_marriage

1) The people have spoken. Twice. Go home, try harder next time.

2) The "No on prop 8" campaign raised more money than the "Yes" campaign, mostly due to large donations by large companies, celebrities and wealthy individuals. The "yes on 8" campaigns funding came more from smaller donations given by individuals who were pro-active in the political process, very similar to the enormous pile of money raised by the Obama campaign. http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_10817885

I think the largest factor that contributed to the victory of prop 8 was the many hours of volunteer work donated to the campaign. The ability to organize people united in a cause to work effectively, not just yell in the streets. Republicans and Conservatives take note and learn from this success, volunteer hours are just as valuable if not more valuable than $$ donated.

8 comments:

Amberly said...

Actually:

"Spending for and against a ballot initiative that would outlaw same-sex marriage in California has surpassed $73 million, almost twice the total that was spent in the 24 states where similar measures were put to voters since 2004.

Campaign finance records show that opponents of Proposition 8 had a slight lead in contributions as of Monday, having raised $37.6 million. Supporters of the ban on gay marriage had raised $35.8 million."

Posted on Nov 3
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/11/spending-for-an.html

And UTAH Mormons donated $25 million. That's just Mormons from Utah. So, 70% of the money that went towards Yes on 8 was donated by UTAH Mormons.

Numbers change a lot in a week and a half. But your right, hard work does pay off.

Eric said...

Yay, my first commentor!

Brooke said...

Man, Amberly beat me to it...oh well. All I have to say then is...Thank You UTAH Mormons!!!!! I don't care how much money was or wasn't raised, I know how hard we and so many other people worked for what we believed in and it felt very rewarding to find out that Kern County voted 75% in favor. All that hard work payed off! I haven't read the first article yet, but I agree that the people have spoken...again. I hope that you were wrong though Amberly (although I thought the exact same thing) and that next time it still passes. The margin was really narrow, too narrow in my oppinion. I'm not, nor have I or will I be against Homosexuals themselves. For me this was never a hate thing, I wanted to protect something that was important to me, marriage between a Man and a Woman. I love you honey and I'm glad that you've gotten so interested in politics, I love the conversations we've had and the ones you've had with Amberly. I'm not ready to post things on my blog yet, but I'm glad you have yours so I can make my little comments. Maybe when I'm not pregnant anymore and I can handle people disagreeing with me. I'm so emotional right now...lol

Amberly said...

The way I see it- If California voted against same-sex marriage, then California shouldn't have same-sex marriage. That means more than 50% of the people don't want it. All I wish is people change their mind and the majority wins so that more than 50% of people WANT gay marriage.

I don't agree with the protests, because that isn't going to do anything. I do like the fact that the gay people who did get married during that short time are allowed to stay married.

I'm also glad I don't live in the overly conservative county of Kern anymore. I just don't think I could survive...

Eric said...

I don't think the past marriages should be valid, due to the wording of the initiative we passed - "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in california". Past gay marriages would be included in that, because the wording does not differenciate between past, present or future.

Melanie@Crafty Cupboard said...

"UTAH mormons" are still individuals involved in the political process, not a large organization or company donating large sums. Since the Church was invited by a Christian coalition for marriage to be actively involved in these marriage ammendments alongside other christian religions, I am proud that the response was so positive.

For prop 102 in Arizona, members of our stake ALONE came up with more than $100,000 in donations, not to mention volunteer hours. And all this within two days of our Stake President asking for the members to donate money to Prop 102.
What makes me sad throughout this whole thing is how those against Prop 8 and Prop 102 call us "haters." We don't hate anything. We just love something else more.

Lisa Miller said...

Well said Eric! Us volunteers ROCK!!!! I was amazed at how many of my family and friends in Utah were publicizing Prop 8. I got blog posts and emails etc. I then got congratulations emails when it passed. We fought for a worthy caused and triumphed.

Amberly said...

I do think the past gay marriages should be valid. It's actually a good think that prop 8 passed. It's actually going to make it easier to overturn the discrimination. It's hard to explain, John, Lydia and I were talking about it on our trip. It's not going to work because the California constitution says something other than the US constitution. It's contradictory. It's gonna get overturned, so I'm not worried.